BMS1
01-24 02:32 PM
Lets just do that..cmon guys ..unity is strength.. the Brits should know that! if not lets remind them..
It is not good disparaging the countries needing TV by calling them idiotic and asking for boycott etc. Please know that you are living in a country (USA) which is far worse than those "idiotic" countries in this respect since 2003. US needs C1 visa for transiting through its airports even when you have a valid VISA stamp in your passport to a destination country and you need to fill eqaully gruelling application (DS 156). Also you need to carry documents for travel purposes and financial support.
It is not good disparaging the countries needing TV by calling them idiotic and asking for boycott etc. Please know that you are living in a country (USA) which is far worse than those "idiotic" countries in this respect since 2003. US needs C1 visa for transiting through its airports even when you have a valid VISA stamp in your passport to a destination country and you need to fill eqaully gruelling application (DS 156). Also you need to carry documents for travel purposes and financial support.
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gc_on_demand
09-09 12:01 PM
Called up all the above
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bayarea07
09-15 05:25 PM
Not sure, but there doesnot seems to be any enthusiasm, have we lost steam or lost all the hopes ????
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caliguy
10-26 09:50 PM
Thanks vikki76. Yes, finally I feel like I can breathe again....
Where is your case at? Is it TSC or NSC? If it's TSC, please send me a private message and I will give you the name of the IO. You really need to talk to this IO, and I think you will get the exact info you need.
As one of the posters mentioned earlier, your case with the IO could mean:
1) It's either in the holding area
2) Or with the officer on their desk
You want to somehow get your case to 2 - on the officers desk. If its sitting in the holding area, you can ask the IO (if they are willing to help) to send a polite reminder to the IO who your file has been assigned to letting them know that your case is current and needs to be looked at.
Another thing the IO mentioed to me was that the case could sit in the holding area for long if the IO that the case has been assigned to is on vacation (or out sick). I'm hoping that's not the case with your application
Good luck to you, I hope you get green soon too...
This is really great news. Congratulations caliguy--I have been following your posts since Sept and know that you were quite active (read that perturbed) on your case.
One less thing to worry about in life.
You have been quite persistent in your efforts to get correct answer from IO.
In my case- when I reached IO using POJ- I was told that case has been predjudicated, and now assigned to IO. How do I get more info than this? Even I have multiple 140-so ,I too am bit worried about that part.
Where is your case at? Is it TSC or NSC? If it's TSC, please send me a private message and I will give you the name of the IO. You really need to talk to this IO, and I think you will get the exact info you need.
As one of the posters mentioned earlier, your case with the IO could mean:
1) It's either in the holding area
2) Or with the officer on their desk
You want to somehow get your case to 2 - on the officers desk. If its sitting in the holding area, you can ask the IO (if they are willing to help) to send a polite reminder to the IO who your file has been assigned to letting them know that your case is current and needs to be looked at.
Another thing the IO mentioed to me was that the case could sit in the holding area for long if the IO that the case has been assigned to is on vacation (or out sick). I'm hoping that's not the case with your application
Good luck to you, I hope you get green soon too...
This is really great news. Congratulations caliguy--I have been following your posts since Sept and know that you were quite active (read that perturbed) on your case.
One less thing to worry about in life.
You have been quite persistent in your efforts to get correct answer from IO.
In my case- when I reached IO using POJ- I was told that case has been predjudicated, and now assigned to IO. How do I get more info than this? Even I have multiple 140-so ,I too am bit worried about that part.
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ghost
04-06 08:31 AM
always amazes me how so many folks depend upon these immigration attorney websites and get disappointed...we are better off supporting IV advocacy and get first hand information on what is going on in DC, USCIS and DOS.
This is not the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last time these AILA folks generate sensational news! Help IV to help you!
This is not the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last time these AILA folks generate sensational news! Help IV to help you!
singhsa3
11-04 11:04 AM
Well, all the jobs you mentioned in your message now falls in Zone 4 i.e. Eb3.
Only option that person may have now is to change career altogether in the fields where desi consulting companies do not operate.
Its not so simple though. Even after finding a good company to stick to, you should not make up your mind to remain stagnant. When you work for about 5 years, you will be faced with a situation where you are asked to take on more responsibility.
The way things are with the current process, if you want to progress in your career and take on a new challenge (eg: database programmer to a DBA/architect), that would require a new LCA since there is a significant change in the responsibilities.
Also at big companies, there are several lines of businesses which are structured as if they are companies by themselves. If you want to shift between LOBs within the same big company, that would also require a new LCA.
Only option that person may have now is to change career altogether in the fields where desi consulting companies do not operate.
Its not so simple though. Even after finding a good company to stick to, you should not make up your mind to remain stagnant. When you work for about 5 years, you will be faced with a situation where you are asked to take on more responsibility.
The way things are with the current process, if you want to progress in your career and take on a new challenge (eg: database programmer to a DBA/architect), that would require a new LCA since there is a significant change in the responsibilities.
Also at big companies, there are several lines of businesses which are structured as if they are companies by themselves. If you want to shift between LOBs within the same big company, that would also require a new LCA.
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anotherone
01-30 01:42 PM
that the offer was taken back based on EAD status.
anyway, I understand the lawyers need to be paid! I just want them to stop changing the rules in the middle of the game. Its been a long frigging wait and now this.
My hope is that there was some misunderstanding and that they will just quietly remake the offer and give me the job back.
At will employment does not mean you can discriminate. Its akin to firing someone if they get pregnant or me leaving because I did not like the skin color of my boss. Both are discriminatory if they can be proven. In this case it can be.
anyway, I understand the lawyers need to be paid! I just want them to stop changing the rules in the middle of the game. Its been a long frigging wait and now this.
My hope is that there was some misunderstanding and that they will just quietly remake the offer and give me the job back.
At will employment does not mean you can discriminate. Its akin to firing someone if they get pregnant or me leaving because I did not like the skin color of my boss. Both are discriminatory if they can be proven. In this case it can be.
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ram_ram
01-11 01:33 PM
ITAA President Quits, May Run For Senate
Harris Miller all but declares run for Virginia seat held by Republican George Allen.
By Eric Chabrow
InformationWeek
Jan 5, 2006 04:05 PM
The chief voice for American IT vendors in Washington is seeking to switch sides and become a target of Capitol Hill lobbyists.
Harris Miller, 54, this week quit his job for the past 10� years as president of the Information Technology Association of America�the lobbying arm of the IT industry�to run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia. A Democrat, Miller is eying the seat held by Republican George Allen. Miller says he'll make an official announcement on whether he'll run next week. But in a telephone interview, Miller sounded like a candidate. He already reserved a domain name for his campaign: miller2006.org.
Miller says top Virginia political leaders, including the retiring and popular Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, a former high-tech executive who's mulling a run for president, urged him to run for the Senate.
As head of the ITAA, Miller has lobbied Congress to liberalize laws such as the H-1B visa program to allow a greater number of foreign IT workers to be employed in the United States, as well as opposed efforts to penalize American businesses from outsourcing work overseas. Miller's positions on these matters have been attacked by some members of the liberal wing of the Democrat Party who seek to limit the importing of IT workers and the exporting of IT jobs as a way to protect American jobs.
But Miller suggests his views have been misinterpreted by critics, saying he isn't pro- or anti-outsourcing, but recognizes that American businesses operate worldwide and have the right to hire workers in countries where they conduct business. Placing limits on outsourcing could hurt efforts to open foreign markets to American IT wares, he contends.
Instead, government should back programs that encourage the creation of new IT jobs in the United States. For instance, he says he's a long-time advocate of programs to bring broadband and other high technologies to American rural areas as a way to attract IT jobs to those areas. He cites a Warner administration program to create hundreds of high-tech jobs by providing broadband Internet connections to businesses in southwest Virginia. "Five years ago, it was not an option, the area didn't have access to the Internet and technology, and those jobs might have gone to Mexico, India, or China," Miller says.
Miller says the United States isn't investing enough in education and worker retraining, as well as IT research and development and broadband, adding that America has fallen behind some other countries. If elected, he says he'd push for increased investments in these areas. "We have to figure out how to run faster, jump higher than our competitors," he says.
Before joining the ITAA, Miller ran a consulting and lobbying firm in Washington, and served as deputy director of personnel management for Congressional relations in the Carter administration.
Replacing Miller as interim ITAA president is Robert Laurence, who had been Sybase VP of public sector.
Harris Miller all but declares run for Virginia seat held by Republican George Allen.
By Eric Chabrow
InformationWeek
Jan 5, 2006 04:05 PM
The chief voice for American IT vendors in Washington is seeking to switch sides and become a target of Capitol Hill lobbyists.
Harris Miller, 54, this week quit his job for the past 10� years as president of the Information Technology Association of America�the lobbying arm of the IT industry�to run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia. A Democrat, Miller is eying the seat held by Republican George Allen. Miller says he'll make an official announcement on whether he'll run next week. But in a telephone interview, Miller sounded like a candidate. He already reserved a domain name for his campaign: miller2006.org.
Miller says top Virginia political leaders, including the retiring and popular Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, a former high-tech executive who's mulling a run for president, urged him to run for the Senate.
As head of the ITAA, Miller has lobbied Congress to liberalize laws such as the H-1B visa program to allow a greater number of foreign IT workers to be employed in the United States, as well as opposed efforts to penalize American businesses from outsourcing work overseas. Miller's positions on these matters have been attacked by some members of the liberal wing of the Democrat Party who seek to limit the importing of IT workers and the exporting of IT jobs as a way to protect American jobs.
But Miller suggests his views have been misinterpreted by critics, saying he isn't pro- or anti-outsourcing, but recognizes that American businesses operate worldwide and have the right to hire workers in countries where they conduct business. Placing limits on outsourcing could hurt efforts to open foreign markets to American IT wares, he contends.
Instead, government should back programs that encourage the creation of new IT jobs in the United States. For instance, he says he's a long-time advocate of programs to bring broadband and other high technologies to American rural areas as a way to attract IT jobs to those areas. He cites a Warner administration program to create hundreds of high-tech jobs by providing broadband Internet connections to businesses in southwest Virginia. "Five years ago, it was not an option, the area didn't have access to the Internet and technology, and those jobs might have gone to Mexico, India, or China," Miller says.
Miller says the United States isn't investing enough in education and worker retraining, as well as IT research and development and broadband, adding that America has fallen behind some other countries. If elected, he says he'd push for increased investments in these areas. "We have to figure out how to run faster, jump higher than our competitors," he says.
Before joining the ITAA, Miller ran a consulting and lobbying firm in Washington, and served as deputy director of personnel management for Congressional relations in the Carter administration.
Replacing Miller as interim ITAA president is Robert Laurence, who had been Sybase VP of public sector.
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nc14
09-10 12:01 PM
Let me give you a green buddy and see if it changes something for you.
Folks please call it all counts.
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$470 + made calls to all congressmen/women on the HR5882 list.
Go IV Go.....
Some one gave me a red for calling.
Folks please call it all counts.
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$470 + made calls to all congressmen/women on the HR5882 list.
Go IV Go.....
Some one gave me a red for calling.
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needhelp!
01-11 05:40 PM
source is USCIS Ombudsman
�218,759 EB visa numbers available for recapture since 1994. See Page 34 in the report for the full breakdown. Click on the link for the Ombudsman report (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual%20Report_2007.pdf) May 2007.
What is the source for the number 218,000? Is this purely speculation or in some official reports? USCIS Ombudsman report, some official USCIS publication or from any other organization?
Thanks!
�218,759 EB visa numbers available for recapture since 1994. See Page 34 in the report for the full breakdown. Click on the link for the Ombudsman report (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual%20Report_2007.pdf) May 2007.
What is the source for the number 218,000? Is this purely speculation or in some official reports? USCIS Ombudsman report, some official USCIS publication or from any other organization?
Thanks!
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SamTheChapu
08-19 06:09 PM
Congrats!!!! Can you please tell the SR process? Do we have to tell the reason why we want SR on the case? If yes, what was your reason to open SR? Thanks!
You call the 1 800 number
Call 1 800 375 5283 and choose option 1 for English
* choose option 2 for checking case status
* Enter receipt number ........., select 1 to confirm the LIN number is correct
* It reads out the information which you can already see online
* It gives me few options to select now:- (To repeat press 1, to check another case press 2, to report a problem with this case press 3,
Press option 3 (problem with case) and then listen carefully to choose "case is outside processing time" and that should lead you to the representative
note down representative name and his id.
Tell him your information (A number, name, address, priority date etc when he asks for it) and tell him you are current and the case is outside processing time (it's too old case as the information online says they are processing 2009/2010 I 485 cases) and ask him the status of the case.
Ask him that you want to know about if the name check is completed, FBI background clearance passed etc and where is your case right now (assigned to any IO?)
This should trigger him to open an SR. Note down SR number.
You call the 1 800 number
Call 1 800 375 5283 and choose option 1 for English
* choose option 2 for checking case status
* Enter receipt number ........., select 1 to confirm the LIN number is correct
* It reads out the information which you can already see online
* It gives me few options to select now:- (To repeat press 1, to check another case press 2, to report a problem with this case press 3,
Press option 3 (problem with case) and then listen carefully to choose "case is outside processing time" and that should lead you to the representative
note down representative name and his id.
Tell him your information (A number, name, address, priority date etc when he asks for it) and tell him you are current and the case is outside processing time (it's too old case as the information online says they are processing 2009/2010 I 485 cases) and ask him the status of the case.
Ask him that you want to know about if the name check is completed, FBI background clearance passed etc and where is your case right now (assigned to any IO?)
This should trigger him to open an SR. Note down SR number.
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Hope_GC
07-09 09:51 PM
This is awesome even before getting the flowers we have achieved what was intended.
I request members to refrain from making personal comments.
Everyone has got their opinion but if that is against our idea and thoughts we should tackle it fairly.
Anyways KUDOS to Everyone participated in this cause.
I request members to refrain from making personal comments.
Everyone has got their opinion but if that is against our idea and thoughts we should tackle it fairly.
Anyways KUDOS to Everyone participated in this cause.
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standinginline
08-19 10:24 PM
Congrats !!!
It feels good to see some EB3 approvals too...
Thank God!
Category - EB3
PD - Nov 2001
Center - VSC > TSC
8/6 - Email sent to TSC
8/6 - Card Production email and Text, status changed to Decision
8/13 - PDA
8/13 - Welcome letter received
8/14, 8/16, - SLUD
8/18 - Physical Cards received
I admit waiting for Physical cards was not fun at all...Checking mails everyday right when see the postman coming :)
Hang in there guys....its about time and Good Luck!
It feels good to see some EB3 approvals too...
Thank God!
Category - EB3
PD - Nov 2001
Center - VSC > TSC
8/6 - Email sent to TSC
8/6 - Card Production email and Text, status changed to Decision
8/13 - PDA
8/13 - Welcome letter received
8/14, 8/16, - SLUD
8/18 - Physical Cards received
I admit waiting for Physical cards was not fun at all...Checking mails everyday right when see the postman coming :)
Hang in there guys....its about time and Good Luck!
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snathan
09-24 06:23 PM
Here is my chart
EB1 EB2 EB3 EB4 EB5 EBOther TOT
India 718 47728 62607 123 13 107
China 607 19333 6343 384 13 30
Mexixo 174 211 7878 62 0 90
Phil 74 510 11563 70 0 264
ROW 2477 7150 62840 1378 40 1029
__________________________________________________ ______________
Total 4050 74932 151231 2017 66 1520
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Total EB1+EB4+EB5 + Ebother = 7653
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EB2- MEX+PHIL+ROW = 7871
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Assuming new cases in ROW Category = 4476 (Random number makes total visa number
being used to round 20,000)
__________________________________________________ ___________
TOT Visa that would surely be used = EB1ALL+ EB4ALL+EB5ALL+EBothersALL+EB2ROW=
7653+7871+4476 = 20000
__________________________________________________ _____________________
Visa Numbers Available for both AOS & CP after using sure shot cases (140,000-20,000) = 120,000
Additional Visa numbers will be available for categories (EB2 I/C + EB3 I/C/M/P/ROW)
Because there are 62,840 EB3 pending for the rest of the world I doubt any numbers would
be given EB3I/C/P/M ???? Correct me if I am wrong
Of the additional visa numbers available after EB3 ROW uses it, max how many can be allocated to India and China EB2 is the question.......? Can someone answer this based on the max limit per country and per category???
Spill over does not have any country limit. they will allocate it untill it becomes current or numbers running out.
EB1 EB2 EB3 EB4 EB5 EBOther TOT
India 718 47728 62607 123 13 107
China 607 19333 6343 384 13 30
Mexixo 174 211 7878 62 0 90
Phil 74 510 11563 70 0 264
ROW 2477 7150 62840 1378 40 1029
__________________________________________________ ______________
Total 4050 74932 151231 2017 66 1520
================================================== ===
Total EB1+EB4+EB5 + Ebother = 7653
_______________________________________
EB2- MEX+PHIL+ROW = 7871
________________________________________
Assuming new cases in ROW Category = 4476 (Random number makes total visa number
being used to round 20,000)
__________________________________________________ ___________
TOT Visa that would surely be used = EB1ALL+ EB4ALL+EB5ALL+EBothersALL+EB2ROW=
7653+7871+4476 = 20000
__________________________________________________ _____________________
Visa Numbers Available for both AOS & CP after using sure shot cases (140,000-20,000) = 120,000
Additional Visa numbers will be available for categories (EB2 I/C + EB3 I/C/M/P/ROW)
Because there are 62,840 EB3 pending for the rest of the world I doubt any numbers would
be given EB3I/C/P/M ???? Correct me if I am wrong
Of the additional visa numbers available after EB3 ROW uses it, max how many can be allocated to India and China EB2 is the question.......? Can someone answer this based on the max limit per country and per category???
Spill over does not have any country limit. they will allocate it untill it becomes current or numbers running out.
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aau
08-07 04:11 PM
I have the same question as I think, it is not possible. How can you re-apply for the same job you are in currently, in EB2?
Yes you can -when you were eligible for the EB2 filing at the time of filing for EB3!
Why would someone do that u ask? Please call my employer and ask him this question. The answer is - so that you are stuck with him for few more years.
Yes you can -when you were eligible for the EB2 filing at the time of filing for EB3!
Why would someone do that u ask? Please call my employer and ask him this question. The answer is - so that you are stuck with him for few more years.
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whitecollarslave
09-10 01:08 PM
Ok, I called the following urging them to support HR 5882:
Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.)202- 225-5811
Dan Lungren (R-Calif.)202- 225-5716
Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) 202-225-5911
Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.)202- 225-4176
Rick Boucher (D-Va.) 202-225-3861
Robert C. Scott (D-Va.) (202) 225-8351
Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.)202- 225-5431
J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.)202- 225-6365
Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) 202-225-2706
Ric Keller (R-Fla.)202- 225-2176
Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) 202-225-3035
Lamar S. Smith (R-Texas), Ranking Member 202- 225-6906/ 202- 225-4236
Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) 202-225-2676
Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) 202-225-3401
Chris Cannon (R-Utah)202- 225-7751
Steve Chabot (R-Ohio) 202-225-2216
Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.)202- 225-5811
Dan Lungren (R-Calif.)202- 225-5716
Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) 202-225-5911
Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.)202- 225-4176
Rick Boucher (D-Va.) 202-225-3861
Robert C. Scott (D-Va.) (202) 225-8351
Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.)202- 225-5431
J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.)202- 225-6365
Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) 202-225-2706
Ric Keller (R-Fla.)202- 225-2176
Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) 202-225-3035
Lamar S. Smith (R-Texas), Ranking Member 202- 225-6906/ 202- 225-4236
Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) 202-225-2676
Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) 202-225-3401
Chris Cannon (R-Utah)202- 225-7751
Steve Chabot (R-Ohio) 202-225-2216
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pmpforgc
01-07 11:46 PM
I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
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InTheMoment
10-05 08:40 PM
SoP,
Good. Initial Review can jump to CPO as it is literally a matter of 15mins for the Adjudication Officer to approve the case!
Up until last year till the pre-adjudication was restarted, almost all cases were first look to approval.
Good. Initial Review can jump to CPO as it is literally a matter of 15mins for the Adjudication Officer to approve the case!
Up until last year till the pre-adjudication was restarted, almost all cases were first look to approval.
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desi3933
06-18 01:05 PM
.....It's a pretty nuanced position. I hope I have been able to explain it properly.
Thanks for putting your point of view. No more discussion from my side.
Good Luck for your green card.
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Thanks for putting your point of view. No more discussion from my side.
Good Luck for your green card.
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anura
04-04 03:16 PM
Did it suggest lots of denial rate on 140 (especially Eb1s)? And it is deterring 140 filing since Jan.? I believe all those lawyers, and bodyshops realize it.
Neither the denial nor the approval rates are significantly changed. However, the receipts have fallen. Look at that as many universities and private companies not hiring teaching and research specialists. So it seems like the economy is the deterrent.
Neither the denial nor the approval rates are significantly changed. However, the receipts have fallen. Look at that as many universities and private companies not hiring teaching and research specialists. So it seems like the economy is the deterrent.
BMS1
01-24 02:32 PM
Lets just do that..cmon guys ..unity is strength.. the Brits should know that! if not lets remind them..
It is not good disparaging the countries needing TV by calling them idiotic and asking for boycott etc. Please know that you are living in a country (USA) which is far worse than those "idiotic" countries in this respect since 2003. US needs C1 visa for transiting through its airports even when you have a valid VISA stamp in your passport to a destination country and you need to fill eqaully gruelling application (DS 156). Also you need to carry documents for travel purposes and financial support.
It is not good disparaging the countries needing TV by calling them idiotic and asking for boycott etc. Please know that you are living in a country (USA) which is far worse than those "idiotic" countries in this respect since 2003. US needs C1 visa for transiting through its airports even when you have a valid VISA stamp in your passport to a destination country and you need to fill eqaully gruelling application (DS 156). Also you need to carry documents for travel purposes and financial support.
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